INTERVIEW Search for truth reparation and transitional justice important elements for achieving peace and reconciliation UN envoy for Colombia

20 October 2016 -- The top United Nations official dealing with the world body"s support for Colombia"s peace process is long-serving veteran Jean Arnault. Since 2015 he has been heavily engaged ...


20 October 2016 -- The top United Nations official dealing with the world body"s support for Colombia"s peace process is long-serving veteran Jean Arnault.

Since 2015 he has been heavily engaged on the issue, first as the Secretary-General"s Delegate to the Sub-Commission on End of Conflict Issues within the Colombian Peace Process and, since March this year, as the Secretary-General"s Special Representative and Head of the UN Mission in Colombia.

There have been various recent steps in the peace process, which involved long-running talks between the Government of Colombia and the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia-People's Army (FARC-EP) in the Cuban capital of Havana, and the achievement of a ceasefire agreement in June, followed by a peace agreement in August. That peace agreement was signed, amid much fanfare, in the Colombian city of Cartagena in September " however, a subsequent referendum on the agreement, in October, led to its rejection by Colombian voters.

In the aftermath of the referendum result, the Government and the FARC-EP asked the Secretary General and the Security Council to allow the UN Mission to verify the parties" compliance with the ceasefire, in accordance with a jointly-agreed protocol on 13 October. Also, the Secretary-General instructed Mr. Arnault to continue his consultations with the parties.

The Special Representative was in New York this week, during which he briefed the Security Council on the recent events in Colombia and its implications for the work of the UN Mission. In his briefing, he highlighted to the Council a broad national consensus that had arisen around the ceasefire and stressed that the provisions in the new protocol are feasible and that its compliance will help bring peace to Colombians, who have manifested a refusal to return to violence.

The UN News Centre spoke with Mr. Arnault after his Council briefing.

Jean Arnault: The most important thing

was the strong support that was shown there. I think that, after the

referendum, there has been an element of uncertainty and I think it might have

been logical that the Council's members react to this uncertainty with their

own uncertainty. But it wasn't like that, it was the opposite. There was

unanimity in the Council once again on the issue of Colombia. I think it's a

very helpful message for us " as the UN Mission in Colombia " but it's also a

very helpful and encouraging message for Colombians.

UN News Centre: What are the next steps " will the Mission adjust in

some way its mandate"

Jean Arnault: The Mission's configuration

doesn't change much. I'll remind you that the initial mandate of the Mission

was centred on the verification of the ceasefire and the verification of the

laying down of arms. Obviously, after the events of 2 October [the result of

the referendum], the laying down of arms has been postponed until a new

agreement is reached. Instead, there is a strong commitment from both parties

to the ceasefire and that's what we'll work on. The concept of a ceasefire now

is a bit different from the concept that had been approved a couple of months

ago but, in the end, deals with a classic process of separation of forces, with

the guerrillas concentrating their forces in about 50 or 60 locations, the army

redeploying its forces and the UN Mission cooperating with the two sides,

monitoring the separation of forces. So I'm sure that it won't be necessary to

have any big changes in the Mission's composition nor in the number of

observers.

UN News Centre: From your encounters, what's the feeling been among

Colombians in relation to the referendum's result and this recent announcement

of negotiations with the ELN"

Jean Arnault: What's remarkable was that,

following the referendum, to find on 3 October a very strong consensus "

regardless of who abstained, who voted yes, who voted no " and that consensus

referred to two things: one is that Colombians do not want a return to war, do

not want more violence, and the result of the referendum generated that concern

that the conflict could resume. The response to this concern was: 'we do

not want a return to war.' The second thing is the firm demand for a

return to negotiations and for an amended agreement to be concluded,

representing the views of those who disagreed " a quick agreement. There's a

desire for the ceasefire to also close the chapter on war, and for it to close

with a good deal, the widest deal possible.

Press briefing on the result of the referedum

Martin Santiago Resident Coordinator of the system of the United Nations in Colombia; Jean Arnault Special Representative of the Secretary-General and chief un political mission in Colombia and General P"rez Aquino, Chief civilian component international observers of the UN Mission in Colombia.

Staff of the UN Mission in Colombia talking to a community leader in the Madrigal District, clearing doubts about the ceasefire and neglect of weapons. Photo: UN Mission in Colombia

Destruction of explosives

The UN Mission in Colombia verifies the destruction of of explosives, detonators, gunpowder, grenades, mines, and bomb making components by the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia-People"s Army (FARC-EP). The destruction was carried out in the Yari plains, Meta department, under the observation of experts and international observers from the UN Mission in the country. Photo: UN Mission in Colombia

Destruction of explosives

The UN Mission in Colombia verifies the destruction of of explosives, detonators, gunpowder, grenades, mines, and bomb making components by the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia-People"s Army (FARC-EP). The destruction was carried out in the Yari plains, Meta department, under the observation of experts and international observers from the UN Mission in the country. Photo: UN Mission in Colombia

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UN News Centre: The main point of disagreement that influenced the referendum's

outcome was that of the administration of justice. How can that disagreement be

overcome in order to create consensus"

Jean Arnault: Everyone knows that the

issue of tensions between the desire for peace and justice isn't limited to

Colombia, rather, it's one that's there in all the [peace] processes we have

known. I don't think there's a process in which we, the United Nations, have

been involved and which hasn't involved the challenge of combining the demands

of peace and justice. The Colombian process is trying something relatively new

with an emphasis on restorative justice. It's not surprising that there are

people who don't agree with this position, this commitment to restorative

justice, who think that justice should be penal in nature, much more in line with

usual justice processes. I think what Colombian society is doing with its

transitional justice process is an experiment worth implementing, but I also

respect the position of those who disagree.

Personally,

I think there is no possible substitute for national reconciliation. I'm

convinced that the search for truth, reparation for victims and transitional

justice are all very important elements for achieving reconciliation for peace

and justice. I'm also convinced that national reconciliation will not come

easily, that it requires the efforts of victims, perpetrators and society as a

whole to seek a path of national unity towards peace. And I conclude by saying

that I think it's very impressive what we have seen in Colombia this past year.

There have been many meetings in Havana between victims and perpetrators, there

have been many other meetings across the country and I think there's a movement

emerging in Colombia for reconciliation that seems very encouraging " not only

for Colombia, but as an example that others can take in peace processes.

UN News Centre: What are the next steps for the UN Mission in Colombia"

I don"t think there"s a process in which we, the United Nations, have been involved and which hasn"t involved the challenge of combining the demands of peace and justice.

Jean Arnault: Well the next step is

really to get a green light, from the Security Council, to respond positively

to a request that we received a couple of weeks ago from the government of

Colombia and the FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia-People's Army) to

verify a cease-fire that they entered into, back on 29 August. They have

modified the concept slightly. But they're very keen that it should now be formally

verified by the United Nations, and we are very confident that the Security

Council will give us their authorization to start verifying the cease-fire as

soon as possible.

UN News Centre: And what does this

national consensus around this cease-fire mean for the UN Mission"

Jean Arnault: Well, it's of course very

good news. It is one thing to have a cease-fire that has been decided on by the

two belligerents " in this case by the state and the army of Colombia, and the

FARC " while it's another thing, obviously, to have a ceasefire that is

strongly supported by the population at large. And it was one of the happy

developments following the plebiscite of 2 October that this popular support

for the ceasefire; this concern not to return to war in spite of the plebiscite

was expressed most clearly. So we feel that we will soon have a Security

Council mandate, but we also feel that we already have a popular mandate to

start verification as soon as possible.

UN News Centre: And how can the

international community support the peace process at this point"

Jean Arnault: Well, I think by showing

continuous hope in this process. It's a peace process that has taken place, as

you know, in an international situation where there are few points of light,

and somehow the peace process in Colombia is bearing the hopes of many people,

and many countries where similar efforts to reaching peace through negotiations

are ongoing and are not always successful. So I think it's important for the

international community to continue to show to the Colombians, and to the

international community in general, that they believe in negotiated ends to

armed conflict. And they've shown that support very, very strongly over the

past 8 months. We've just had an episode that is a bit of a glitch in the

pursuit of peace, but I think it's important for the international community to

continue to show their support; their hope, and the aspiration that very soon

the final agreement will be concluded.

UN News Centre: Do you think it's very

difficult to build this consensus after the result of the plebiscite"

Jean Arnault: Yes, I think it will not

be easy, obviously. As you know, the plebiscite has shown that, to some extent

at least, the population was divided; it was actually split down the middle "

fifty-plus versus forty-nine-plus. And it's always difficult, when you have a

situation of clear division, to overcome the perceptions on one side or

another. But so far I think that our own analysis is that the Colombian society

has responded well. Immediately after the plebiscite, the government and the

FARC announced their decision and their determination to keep the ceasefire,

and simultaneously, they both agreed that they wanted to recognize the outcome

of the plebiscite and invite the opposition to a dialogue, which started

actually on Monday 3 October. And I think the opposition has also been

responsible. Because for the most part, no one - actually all of the opposition

has agreed to enter into dialogue with the government. So the past couple of

weeks have been really two weeks of searching for political solutions. Now of

course there are differences in view between the yes camp and the no camp;

there are differences within the no camp, and I have no doubt that reaching an

agreement quickly will not be easy. But I think " again, to talk about mandate

" I think the political parties, the leadership of that country has a popular

mandate to reach an agreement and to reach it as quickly as possible, and also

to try to make it a national compact, so that all those sensitivities that have

been revealed by the plebiscite are properly represented in the future

agreement.

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